Comments on: The long and the short of posts - the soapie versus the soapbox http://blogsavvy.net/the-long-and-the-short-of-posts-the-soapie-versus-the-soapbox/ BlogSavvy: Professional Blog Consultant - Consulting for blogging in Business, education, a cause, the community, and blogging for Money! Fri, 05 Sep 2008 12:55:47 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: The Community Engine Blog http://blogsavvy.net/the-long-and-the-short-of-posts-the-soapie-versus-the-soapbox/#comment-36 The Community Engine Blog Tue, 31 May 2005 23:59:30 +0000 http://blogsavvy.net/the-long-and-the-short-of-posts-the-soapie-versus-the-soapbox#comment-36 <strong>High Octane Blogging — Jeremy Wright weighs in</strong> Jeremy Wright is providing some excellent feedback to The High Octane Blogging Bootcamp leading me to feel the coaching model we are testing here will work. Next up is Susie Gardner of Buzz Marketing with Blogs fame. High Octane Blogging — Jeremy Wright weighs in

Jeremy Wright is providing some excellent feedback to The High Octane Blogging Bootcamp leading me to feel the coaching model we are testing here will work. Next up is Susie Gardner of Buzz Marketing with Blogs fame.

]]> By: James http://blogsavvy.net/the-long-and-the-short-of-posts-the-soapie-versus-the-soapbox/#comment-35 James Sat, 28 May 2005 02:35:59 +0000 http://blogsavvy.net/the-long-and-the-short-of-posts-the-soapie-versus-the-soapbox#comment-35 That is one pretty neat list of ping servers! Thanks Chris! That is one pretty neat list of ping servers! Thanks Chris!

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]]> By: Chris Abraham http://blogsavvy.net/the-long-and-the-short-of-posts-the-soapie-versus-the-soapbox/#comment-33 Chris Abraham Fri, 27 May 2005 15:32:55 +0000 http://blogsavvy.net/the-long-and-the-short-of-posts-the-soapie-versus-the-soapbox#comment-33 Thank you for the kudos, James. I base all my blogging on <a href="http://www.chrisabraham.com/2005/03/blogging_advice_1.html" rel="nofollow">the advice from Doc Searls</a>. Mixing it up is essential too... but making sure you have a comprehensive <a href="http://www.chrisabraham.com/2005/02/essential_ping.html" rel="nofollow">ping server list</a>. Here's the hint, though: the more you update your blog, even with short little posts -- and this is key, so listen -- the more often the search engines come a knock knock knockin'! Bonus! Thank you for the kudos, James. I base all my blogging on the advice from Doc Searls. Mixing it up is essential too… but making sure you have a comprehensive ping server list. Here’s the hint, though: the more you update your blog, even with short little posts — and this is key, so listen — the more often the search engines come a knock knock knockin’!

Bonus!

]]> By: The Community Engine Blog http://blogsavvy.net/the-long-and-the-short-of-posts-the-soapie-versus-the-soapbox/#comment-32 The Community Engine Blog Fri, 27 May 2005 04:58:47 +0000 http://blogsavvy.net/the-long-and-the-short-of-posts-the-soapie-versus-the-soapbox#comment-32 <strong>Blogging interaction — A sane posting strategy</strong> Finally, a well-known blog consultant talks about the value of more in-depth blog posts. I have two tactical suggestions for making these work: a newspaper writing style, and editing long posts to the main message. Blogging interaction — A sane posting strategy

Finally, a well-known blog consultant talks about the value of more in-depth blog posts. I have two tactical suggestions for making these work: a newspaper writing style, and editing long posts to the main message.

]]> By: Stephen Powell http://blogsavvy.net/the-long-and-the-short-of-posts-the-soapie-versus-the-soapbox/#comment-31 Stephen Powell Thu, 26 May 2005 00:33:28 +0000 http://blogsavvy.net/the-long-and-the-short-of-posts-the-soapie-versus-the-soapbox#comment-31 That's a good question and the answer is no I wouldn't blog if I didn't think that there was an audience at least some of the time. I think that my entries have different intentions, and as such the potential audience (the one I have in my mind when I am writing a particular blog) does effect the what I write. I am still learning this, but I am starting to understand what type of Blog will be more likely to draw a response. As the research above shows it is typically the shorter Blog, but I also find that the inclusion of a diagram of a model or idea helps. I am fairly sure I don't have a grander purpose, other than my personally grand/larger purpose to get a PhD. I am sure that ICT (including blogs) is most powerful as a tool for expression and evaluation - cornerstones of learning. The evaluative power comes from feedback that can be generated internally, but also externally and that is where the audience or even the perceived audience is valuable. That’s a good question and the answer is no I wouldn’t blog if I didn’t think that there was an audience at least some of the time. I think that my entries have different intentions, and as such the potential audience (the one I have in my mind when I am writing a particular blog) does effect the what I write. I am still learning this, but I am starting to understand what type of Blog will be more likely to draw a response. As the research above shows it is typically the shorter Blog, but I also find that the inclusion of a diagram of a model or idea helps.

I am fairly sure I don’t have a grander purpose, other than my personally grand/larger purpose to get a PhD.

I am sure that ICT (including blogs) is most powerful as a tool for expression and evaluation - cornerstones of learning. The evaluative power comes from feedback that can be generated internally, but also externally and that is where the audience or even the perceived audience is valuable.

]]> By: James http://blogsavvy.net/the-long-and-the-short-of-posts-the-soapie-versus-the-soapbox/#comment-30 James Thu, 26 May 2005 00:07:04 +0000 http://blogsavvy.net/the-long-and-the-short-of-posts-the-soapie-versus-the-soapbox#comment-30 SBS over in os Oz for me :o) Started writing this at half time! I guess my question for you would be whether you think you would blog without an audience and what that means about what you're doing? I get what you're saying about your interaction with colleagues but do you have any larger purpose? Grander scheme? Granted it doesn't have to be and, in the end on the whole I don't think it will be (we're going forwards backwards as they say, perhaps) but I think in 99% of cases blogs are motivated through a combination of expression and audience. SBS over in os Oz for me :o) Started writing this at half time!

I guess my question for you would be whether you think you would blog without an audience and what that means about what you’re doing? I get what you’re saying about your interaction with colleagues but do you have any larger purpose? Grander scheme?

Granted it doesn’t have to be and, in the end on the whole I don’t think it will be (we’re going forwards backwards as they say, perhaps) but I think in 99% of cases blogs are motivated through a combination of expression and audience.

]]> By: Stephen Powell http://blogsavvy.net/the-long-and-the-short-of-posts-the-soapie-versus-the-soapbox/#comment-29 Stephen Powell Wed, 25 May 2005 23:49:58 +0000 http://blogsavvy.net/the-long-and-the-short-of-posts-the-soapie-versus-the-soapbox#comment-29 Interesting stuff James (not as good as the footy though, ah the BBC webcasts saved my day!). As you indicate, doesn't it come down to intended purpose? I blog about weekly and my purpose is usually to synthesise my own reflections as I build (hopefully) towards a PhD. Some of the things I write is no doubt naive nonsense, some hopefully has merit. So for me this is mostly about my professional lifelong learning, with occasional attempts to provoke discussion amongst colleagues and students who pick my blog up on aggregators connected to work. Interesting stuff James (not as good as the footy though, ah the BBC webcasts saved my day!). As you indicate, doesn’t it come down to intended purpose? I blog about weekly and my purpose is usually to synthesise my own reflections as I build (hopefully) towards a PhD. Some of the things I write is no doubt naive nonsense, some hopefully has merit. So for me this is mostly about my professional lifelong learning, with occasional attempts to provoke discussion amongst colleagues and students who pick my blog up on aggregators connected to work.

]]> By: James http://blogsavvy.net/the-long-and-the-short-of-posts-the-soapie-versus-the-soapbox/#comment-28 James Wed, 25 May 2005 23:24:04 +0000 http://blogsavvy.net/the-long-and-the-short-of-posts-the-soapie-versus-the-soapbox#comment-28 Yes, definitely, niche contend is good... fascinating that you draw on two of the main points that were realised at Blogtalk Downunder over the weekend by the keynotes. Rebecca Blood talked about citizen scientists and participatory experts and Mark Bernstein looked at protecting the blogosphere - you can find a podcast of his presentation here: http://incsub.org/blogtalk/?p=123 All of this convergence makes me feel like we're at an important point. Yes, definitely, niche contend is good… fascinating that you draw on two of the main points that were realised at Blogtalk Downunder over the weekend by the keynotes. Rebecca Blood talked about citizen scientists and participatory experts and Mark Bernstein looked at protecting the blogosphere - you can find a podcast of his presentation here: http://incsub.org/blogtalk/?p=123

All of this convergence makes me feel like we’re at an important point.

]]> By: Marshall Kirkpatrick http://blogsavvy.net/the-long-and-the-short-of-posts-the-soapie-versus-the-soapbox/#comment-27 Marshall Kirkpatrick Wed, 25 May 2005 22:13:54 +0000 http://blogsavvy.net/the-long-and-the-short-of-posts-the-soapie-versus-the-soapbox#comment-27 If collective knowledge endeavors have value created in their diversity, then the blogosphere and related milieus (i.e. social bookmarking databases) will benefit far more from folks not seeking a-list status. The world of social bookmarking is a good analogy, perhaps. Who are the a-list social bookmarkers? There are some folks whose Furl archives and feeds I really admire and make use of (not a-list bloggers, either), but I find the del.icio.us all-users feed to be one of the most valuable in my aggregator. Similarly, elite status in the blogosphere ultimately contributes far less to the collective good than a nugget of highly useful content every once in awhile in your blog. My site gets more traffic to a comparative review of wiki software options than to all my other articles combined. I wrote it mostly because I couldn't find anyone else who had, and I was already doing the comparisons for my consulting work. I don't feel like blogging about wikis these days, but I appreciate that wiki-related old content on my site provides value to people seeking that information. That makes me feel good, despite my small overall traffic numbers. If collective knowledge endeavors have value created in their diversity, then the blogosphere and related milieus (i.e. social bookmarking databases) will benefit far more from folks not seeking a-list status. The world of social bookmarking is a good analogy, perhaps. Who are the a-list social bookmarkers? There are some folks whose Furl archives and feeds I really admire and make use of (not a-list bloggers, either), but I find the del.icio.us all-users feed to be one of the most valuable in my aggregator.

Similarly, elite status in the blogosphere ultimately contributes far less to the collective good than a nugget of highly useful content every once in awhile in your blog. My site gets more traffic to a comparative review of wiki software options than to all my other articles combined. I wrote it mostly because I couldn’t find anyone else who had, and I was already doing the comparisons for my consulting work. I don’t feel like blogging about wikis these days, but I appreciate that wiki-related old content on my site provides value to people seeking that information. That makes me feel good, despite my small overall traffic numbers.

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